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Sunday, June 13, 2021

[Episode 138] Season 6, Episode 15 of Fear The Walking Dead, "U.S.S. Pennsylvania"

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This episode really exhibits both the distinctions and the dark mirror parallels many of our characters have with one another, which has sincerely allowed us to take their totality into account. Should our characters be simpler? Should our heroes be super and our villains lean in? Tell us what you think!
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David Cameo:
Rachael Burt:

  • Watch Dave React to this episode:

  • We resign ourselves to love the complicated nature of our characters: they keep us guessing.
  • Why we don't bother discussing obvious points/Easter Eggs and giving credit where credit is due.
  • Speaking of credit, how about Brian Castrillo being 1000% correct with his predictions about Riley and the other Naval Officers on the U.S.S. Pennsylvania joining the enders?

  • SSBN-735 (on Riley’s shirt) designation of USS Pennsylvania.

  • @blazygardener freaking out Michael Satrazemis with her LOST parallels (among other memes)
  • Why isn’t Morgan Jones covered in guts/blood after escaping the walkers? The undead sub-crew is surprisingly clean, too. 
  • Morgan is trying to spare Grace Mukherjee the blame of the missile launch.
  • Annoyed with Morgan's pity party: mimicking John Dorie Sr (parallels). 
  • Leaning into villainy: if Dakota can do it, so can you, Victor Strand.

  • Strand is doing it for everybody? Does it matter if (he thinks) that's true?
  • Strand's envy: People follow Morgan because they want to, not because he owes them anything.
  • Victor is a lot like Gamma/Mary (from TWD): an erstwhile villain found the right people, first, and found the potential to become a hero.
  • Characters we love (to hate) and why we want them to stick around: contrasting Victor's and Negan's sins.

  • Morgan is alone at the dam at the start of the episode: like June Dorie's last goodbye at John's Cabin, it feels like he'll never see it again.
  • Where are the rest of the dam residents (Nora and all the office building dwellers, etc)?
  • Morgan & Victor have the goods on one another.
  • Quotable Characters making Questionable Decisions: our next podcast idea.
  • Comparing/Contrasting Victor to Dwight: Even D has done some pretty horrible things.
  • That satisfying moment Dorie Sr finally has over the radio with Teddy Maddox.
  • Thinking about the bleached bones (skelehorse/skelerider) from TWD 10x19, One More that could be Victor on horseback (if you want to hear our discussion of that episode, head here, to [Episode 123])
  • Radioactive walker was a member of Teddy’s flock, but what was her purpose?
  • Radioactive material may have leaked out of the missiles, rendering them less potent. 
  • Walter (Sub-ewski, Emile's victim from the start of the season) obviously had a crisis of conscience, with respect to his shipmate/mutiny-mate, Riley, and The Enders' ultimate plan.
  • A lesson(?) in body decomposition inside an airtight(?) submarine.
  • Season 4 parallel: 150 crew members reminds us of the signs indicating the number of walkers posted by The Vultures.
  • Where will the nukes hit? Ginny’s franchises? Dakota most-likely revealed, to Teddy, the dam settlement's location.
  • This episode allowed us to understand Dakota a little more, by way of comparing her actions to the actions of others (like an M.C. Escher painting).

  • Sarah Rabinowitz & Daniel Salazar giving us humor (giving us life).
  • Letting Teddy & Riley go would tell our group where not to go or where Alicia Clark might be. Can’t really blame Riley and the Enders for Athena’s death.
  • Mutually assured destruction: Morgan and Strand.
  • Happy 15th Birthday Alexa Nisenson, we recorded on your birthday! And big ups to Maxine from the UK, who joined us for the recording!

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Sunday, June 6, 2021

[Episode 137] Season 6, Episode 14 of Fear The Walking Dead, "Mother"

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It feels like we've been watching this season forever: as hard has it is to believe, we're nearing the end (which takes us back to the very beginning). We may have overanalyzed Dakota's motivations a little too much this episode, but it's allowed us to uncover some fascinating parallels in the process.
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David Cameo:
Rachael Burt:

  • Alicia’s amazing makeup shows us ho sleep-deprived she's been, the past few weeks.
  • Dakota doesn’t know right from wrong, because of her upbringing, but we don’t know enough about Dakota to feel bad for her.
  • Dave thinks Dakota is playing the long con.
  • The benefit to keeping complicated characters around, like Negan.
  • The Hilltop leadership rule: 1st in charge shits the bed, while 2nd in command runs the show.
  • Rachael's theory, Teddy engenders jealousy in Dakota by giving Alicia special attention.
  • Rachael would totally drink Teddy’s Kool-Aid. Also, still #TeamRiley.
  • Dave predicted Teddy's sack-grab (and how he picked it up from "The Row")
  • Dakota’s uses same comments about Victor Strand as Cole had: Further proof of long con? 
  • Don't expect happy endings from #TWDUniverse: You might not get what you want, but you’ll like what you get.
  • This mummy's not Teddy’s Mommy? A previous victim/Alicia/"Mother"?
  • Teddy knows he’s bad.
  • Alicia is exactly what Teddy is looking for because she does the opposite of what he wants/tells her.
  • Both Alicia and both John Dories having the role of hero thrust upon them.

  • Dakota protecting Teddy possibly breaking the pattern of Alicia assuming the role of "Mother" (or possibly dying).
  • Do Teddy’s followers know anything about his plan?
  • Go full Camus: Embrace what you are, be it hero, villain, or pawn.
  • Dave really struggles with his feelings toward Dakota: if she doesn't go full evil, what was this all for?
  • Alicia can kill if it's absolutely necessary, but it doesn’t mean she wants to, Dakota.
  • Great choice bringing Cole/Sebastian Sozzi back for this episode. Too bad AMC/the trailer/opening credits spoiled it for some.
  • Remembering when Viv pulled a gun on "Naomi" back at The Diamond, back in Season 4.
  • Cole mentions Motel #4 which we saw on Derek’s mural as one of the spots The Enders hit.
  • Meaningful poses in Cole's line-up: Alicia has her hands out/open while Dakota hides hers behind her back.
  • The Gregory Brothers, Major to Minor/Minor to Major Happy Sad Songs
    (truthfully, they never did Yellow Submarine, but this guy did - as well as a bunch of other songs)

  • Writers hopefully keeping us on our toes: Trying to see Dakota on the whole character (not just how much we hate her)
  • Comparing Charlie and Dakota’s situations: The ability to see the point of view of all characters, even villains.
  • Dakota is our first, possibly full-tilt child villain in #TWDUniverse. Otherwise, this show is making us go completely crazy
  • Who is Dakota’s dad (Riley, duh, did you even watch [Episode 135])?
  • Mabel’s Parts: M.others A.lways B.ring E.xtra L.ove

  • Theories (possibly from Dalton Ross of Entertainment Weekly?) about Alicia dying: breaking the loop?
  • Contemplating The Queens Gambit discussion in Damage from the Inside (FearTWD 6x07): Dakota & Ed Gein discuss the strategy, but who is the sacrificed pawn? John? Dakota?
  • Alicia kills as a last resort, but Cole has no idea who Alicia has become no what Madison Clark used to be.
  • When good characters break bad, like Rick Grimes in the bar giving The Savior remainders "his word": it allows us to completely understand where Cole lives.
  • Alicia Clark was almost Ashley Bennett.
  • So much blue. Does it still mean harbinger of death?
  • Rachael's bone to pick with Teddy's 1st walker disposal.
  • @CindyJ1019 really tried finding Dave saying Grace's last name!
  • Cole, "I thought you died in the fire, too, Alicia," indicating that even he knows Madison is dead!

  • Morning Glories remind us of Bluebonnets
  • Is Riley, himself, part of the submarine crew? And speaking of the sub, remember Walter Subewski, from the 1st episode? He was wearing a naval uniform, too.


  • 2x Nuclear Arms Keys, 2x Saint Christopher Medallions.
  • Ouroboros: Dwight chasing Sherry, Alicia running away from Teddy, and even Morgan Jones stopping Alicia with The Art of Peace
  • Will Charlie be the breaker of loops?

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