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Friday, December 3, 2021

[Episode 170] Season 7, Episode 7 of Fear The Walking Dead, "The Portrait"

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What's absolutely fantastic about this episode is the debate and coalescence on the points of view from our fellow hosts. Watching #VictorStrand's slowly disintegrate is changing the way we view him. Seeing #MorganJones break bad concerns even the harshest of his critics. And the return of #AliciaClark leaves us with even more questions prior to her arrival! There were far more setups than resolutions this episode, but it's hard to argue that this episode didn't move the story forward.
OH. MAI. GAH! ...the pre-show to this episode is *SO* spicy: I only wished we had been able to start recording sooner (OR THAT OUR HOSTS WOULD HOLD BACK FROM SPILLING THEIR GUTS LONG ENOUGH TO SAVE IT FOR THE ACTUAL SHOW πŸ‘€). Either way, you are not going to want to miss the Unedited Episode Recording for this episode. Best of all, it helps support this podcast! Check it out:

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  • Morgan Jones showed up at Strand's Tower with the intent to kill Victor Strand.
  • Strand perhaps pushed Morgan to this point, but Morgan's been undetectably changing (for better and worse).
  • What if Morgan had succeeded in murdering Strand?
  • Morgan unsuccessfully tries to convince June Dorie to leave the tower. Spicy conversation ensues: leveraging recent/repeating history with Virginia and the (incomplete) memory of John Dorie.
  • Will Morgan admit to June/Alicia Clark what he tried to do to Strand?
  • All Morgan had to do was wash his dirty paws; get away with it. Made things worse.
  • Analyzing Howard's words, "Don’t let Morgan Jones make you second guess yourself."
  • Strand's gift to Howard: even though The Tower was Howard’s before it was Strand’s, Victor gives Howard the chance to make history, rather than curate it.
  • See? Strand cares about children.
  • Why does Strand deny even the most useful people entrance? Are they just not "Alicia"? Is it pure instinct? Does he only choose people who are dependent upon him?
  • The Tower is unfinished on the inside, just like Victor: The framing is there, but filling it with History rather than structure; being damaged from the inside-out/outside-in.
  • Initial reaction to when Strand let out "Alicia," down the elevator shaft.
  • Against Strand's instincts, Morgan is brought into the tower because he is the person Victor knows sees him for who he really is.
  • Validating what Dave assumed about Strand: he was never loved as a child, so doesn’t know how to accept love.
  • Unsettling thoughts on what could happen to baby Mo living with Papa Strand?
  • Strands spooky Beta shit moment, hearing the walker noises while staring at his portrait. Rachael actually feels bad for him.
  • Strand is bad, but not evil. Victor is like a post-zombie-apocalyptic Walter White (Breaking Bad
  • Very self destructive behavior from Victor: from sabotaging his relationship with Cole to keeping Alicia at arms length.
  • The torn, tattered, and bloody version of his portrait is truly how Victor sees himself. What does he actually see, though?
  • Questions abut Arno's exploding walkers. Dissecting Arno's plan to take over the tower invokes memories of The Twilight Zone's The Shelter.
  • Arno is too pretty to kill-off.
  • Dave previously called Alicia's appearance wouldn't occur until the 7th episode. Just like Victor, Alicia wants something from Morgan, too, but what could it be?
  • [Editor's Note] this episode was not Alycia Debnam-Carey's directorial debut. Heather Cappiello directed The Portrait and Alycia directed a yet unnamed episode 7x11
  • Strand’s vomit looks like paint, making Juliana (initially) sus (but not really).
  • But, really? Methylene Blue? Typically administered intravenously as Oxygen therapy for the blood. Taken orally doesn't seem nearly lethal, so... what was Morgan Jones' intent?
  • Morgan willing to kill(?) Strand to ensure Baby Morgan's safety? Add to it the (im)perfect timing of Arno showing up on the day of Morgan's attempted murder of Strand.
  • Will we see a change in Victor after his poisoning and how we might we feel about a mad Strand?

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Sunday, November 28, 2021

[Episode 169] The Walking Dead: World Beyond |2x08| Returning Point

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Getting to the nuts and bolts of this episode involves examining our entire outlook on the kinds of people we end up meeting in #TWDU and admitting that, as much as we hate "weak people", there's a value in having them around so that we may, yet again reach a "Returning Point". Fearing that #Jadis may have learned the wrong lesson from Simon (of #TheSaviors, #Negan's former right-hand man), we also wonder whether other characters are reaching that point to (perhaps #LeoBennett? #FelixCarlucci? ...and, no, we haven't forgotten the obvious: #IrisBennett)
Our pre-show was QUITE spicy and we do dip our toes into the political/current events. You might not want to miss that Unedited/Unfiltered/Raw discussion while also supporting the BEST #TWDUniverse #podcast in history. So what are you waiting for? Click here:

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  • Did you miss June's Holiday Tunes?
  • And a special Thanksgiving wish from Dave to all of you:
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  • As much as we'd like to find out more about Rick Grimes' whereabouts or even The Civic Republic or The Civic Republic Military, what's most important is that The Walking Dead: World Beyond tells the story that was meant to be told.
  • Drawing a comparison between The Walking Dead fans' dismissal of TWD World Beyond & Fear The Walking Dead.
  • Bottom line: while you can watch any #TWDUniverse spin-offs for ties to The Walking Dead (original series), we recommend reading recaps or listening to podcasters who will recap the episode for those specific tie-ins. Don't trash a show because it didn't give you what you wanted that had nothing to do with telling its own story.
  • Jasmine's take: Mason Beale's unfair treatment. Rachael needs clarity on the hurried retrieval of Mason and Dave takes the opportunity to explain, more narratively, why it shapes up the way it does (the audience's confusion and the them of trust).
  • Why selfish isn't a bad word: parallels between Althea (from FearTWD) and Indira. More examples of trust: Iris Bennett trusts Hope Bennett to retrieve Mason. Hope trusts Iris/Percy Delmado to not harm Mason. Elizabeth Kublek trusts Indira to run Perimeter Colony while Indira's life is in Kublek's hands (Saline Dialysis).
  • Rachael has a problem with Kublek sneaking Saline to Indira, Dave & Sherrandy swoop in to explain. Also, she's at the top of the food chain, so she has latitude.
  • But trust has its limits: just like Silas Plaskett not being able to fully trust Dennis (you're one of them), Hope can only allow herself to trust Mason so much before she has to fall back to prioritizing the safety of her family.
  • Explaining Mason's reaction to seeing an empty within the research facility's walls.
  • Parallels between Leo Bennett wishing he'd ended Lyla Belshaw's life, himself, with Kublek explaining to Jennifer Mallick that, if anyone, she would want to be the one to break her: We need some people to do the hard work and make the tough/ugly calls, but we need others whose hands are clean to bring us back (Returning Point).
  • Leo also hates in others what he hates in himself: he wants to strangle that part of himself that could ever feel true love for someone who would potentially sell him and his daughters out for the sake of humanity's future.
  • On the heels of needing to do the ugly thing, we're concerned about what Iris (might feel like she) has to do.
  • This episode answers both Jasmine & Rachael's question of whether there are soldiers questioning the genocide of Campus Colony/Omaha.
  • CR RF's lower level looks like Huck's Marine Base in Middletown, NY during her backstory told in 1x07 Truth or Dare. To parallel, will someone in our group have to prevent someone else in our group to save one person (Mason)?
  • Felix Carlucci and Leo's discussion about what it means to make a life for yourself and how we're ultimately responsible for our own choices.
  • Brody's repugnant actions (on a multitude of levels) allow us to fully hate him, which is rare! He shows us the negative extreme of selfishness. Jadis shows us the classic removal of all points of contact protocol, as a result of Perimeter's deception and Huck's disposal of Brody.
  • Wrestling with two multi-varied possibilities: Major General Beale has no idea what Warrant Officer Stokes is... stoking.. and Mason might know about his father's comings and goings - or finds out and sides with him.
  • Reminding everyone where Kublek's Project-V papers were located and why that's important. In defense of Jadis: she may feel like she needs to do all this bad to save the CR(M) from having to do it, themselves.
  •  Until Huck shoots Brody, we don't think Jadis was terribly sus on Huck. Huck's protest against the one-shot kill orders against the scientists and Bennett family. Jadis hates in others what she hated/killed in herself (as the leader of the Junkyard Gang).
  • Brief revisit on the original CRM logo on the can of pears post the slaughter of Jadis' people and the PPP keycard Tara Chambler finds when Heath disappears. the PPP stands for the 3 Portlands: Oregon, Texas, and Maine.
  • Too much grey thinking is bad (Lyla - you lose yourself/your soul), too much black and white thinking is bad (impractical). Revisiting the political extremes Horseshoe Theory: Don't be the monster in an attempt to rid the world of monsters.
  • We revisit a world in which Iris was chosen over Hope to be the CRM's resident genius. Dave takes the opportunity to explore our confusion with Iris' actions: she has excellent reasoning, but the emotions that undergird them are absent. Could there be something else we don't know about Iris that motivates her? Survivor's Guilt? And all her work for towards a better future in Campus Colony was robbed from her.

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